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04.17.05 (5:42 am)   [edit]
I am getting very tired of constantly having to educate people about this aspect of Paganism/Wicca/Witchcraft whatever. I’m going to say it once more and I expect I’ll stop being polite about it. I am utter offended that the use of the term “Demonic activity” was used to describe my faith. Never have I termed other World Faiths in such terms, nor would I ever stoop so low as to even consider such terms.
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by Robert Nguyen Cramer


Satan (Greek: Satan or Satanas) as used in the New Testament is a word of Hebrew origin. It means the accuser, the adversary, the opponent, the prosecution (in a legal case). In the Greek New Testament the Hebrew word Satan is often translated into the Greek word diabolos, which most commonly is translated into English as Devil. Diabolos means the accuser, slanderer, calumniator, backbiter, enemy, one who separates.
In Kittel's classic and nearly definitive Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, Volume II (Ann Arbor, MI: Eerdmans, 1964, page 73), Gerhard von Rad describes the Old Testament view of Satan as follows:

So far as we can see, the word has a special place in the judicial life of Israel. The satan is the enemy in a specific sense, i.e., the accuser at law. His place is on the right hand of the accused (Zech. 3:1)...

In Luke 13:10-17, we read an account that may depict an image of Satan as a prosecutor who had effected a guilty verdict and a harsh sentence against the accused -- a woman. This sentence included having the accused and convicted woman being bound in chains of a crippling illness for eighteen long years. Jesus' action, healing the woman, may be viewed as overruling the earlier guilty verdict, acquitting the woman of the prosecutor's (Satan's) accusations, and immediately annuling the sentence. Jesus spoke of setting free the woman whom Satan had held in chains for eighteen years. See Matthew 9:2-9, where the Greek word translated as "forgive" is sometimes used in classical Greek as a term for acquittal in a legal proceding. (The BibleTexts commentary on Matthew 9:2-9 is at http://www.bibletexts.com/ver...)

In the Gospel according to John, Jesus implies that he himself had been serving as a paraclete (Greek: parakleytos; in English, a defense attorney, counsellor, or advocate -- translated in the KJV as "Comforter."), and 1Jo 2:1 refers to Jesus as a paraclete. He also spoke of the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth, as "another paraclete" that would continue to teach all things and remind Jesus' followers of what Jesus had taught. See John 14:16, 17, 25, 26; John 15:26; 16:7-15. For additional insights on gospels' use of this legal metaphor, browse http://www.bibletexts.com/ter...
In the book of Revelation, the following terms are considered as synonymous: the dragon, that ancient serpent, the Devil, Satan, the deceiver of the whole world, the accuser.
And war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels fought against the dragon. The dragon and his angels fought back, but they were defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. The great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, proclaiming, “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Messiah, for the accuser of our comrades has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. (Rev 12:7-10, NRSV) cite


See also:
Gen 3:1-5
Rev 12:9
Rev 20:2
S&H 564:32
Mis 191:4
Un 21:10



Young People's Bible Dictionary
by Barbara Smith (Philadelphia: Westminster, 1965)



devil. A personification of evil, used in the N.T. to mean Satan*. Luke 4:5; John 8:44; Eph. 4:27; Heb. 2:14.

Satan. In the O.T., the adversary of men, one who challenges the ways of men or brings them to trial; always subject to God, whose servant he is. 1 Chron. 21:1; Job 1:6-12 Zech. 3:1-2.

In Late O.T. times there arose beliefs in Satan as a definite being, chief of all evil spirits, the adversary of God in a struggle between good and evil (this idea came from Persion beliefs.)

In the N.T., Satan is the source of evil. Mark 1:13; Luke 22:3; Acts 5:3; 2 Cor. 11:14; 1 Tim. 5:15. Other names or expressions for Satan are devil, John 8:44; the evil one, Matt. 13:19; Beelzebul and prince of demons, Mark 3:22-23; ruler of this world, John 12:31; prince of the power of the air. Eph 2:1-2; Belial, 2 Cor. 6:15.

Harper’s Bible Dictionary
edited by Paul J. Achtemier (San Francisco: Harper and Row, 1985)



devil, the English translation of a Greek word (diabolos) meaning ‘accuser’ or ‘slanderer,’ used in the Septuagint to translate the Hebrew ‘Satan’ and in the nt as a virtual synonym for the same term. In the kjv, it is also regularly employed as a translation of another Greek word (daimon), which, however, in the rsv is transliterated as ‘demon.’ The idea that Satan was an angel put out of heaven because of his rebellion against God and his desire to assume the prerogatives of divinity seems to be reflected in Luke 10:18. Jesus’ ability to expel the demons who were Satan’s minions was understood to be the result of his having conquered and ‘bound’ Satan (see Mark 3:27)

Satan, the English transliteration of a Hebrew word whose literal meaning is ‘adversary.’ This is the basic idea associated with Satan in the ot. The figure of Satan is found in only three places in the ot, and all of these are postexilic in date (i.e., after 538 b.c.): Job 1-2; Zech. 3:1-2; and 1 Chron. 21:1.

In the first two instances (Job 1-2; Zech. 3:1-2), Satan is depicted as a member of God’s court whose basic duty it was to ‘accuse’ human beings before God. He is clearly not at this point an enemy of God and the leader of the demonic forces of evil, as he becomes later. There is some question as to whether, in 1 Chron. 21:1, a specific personality is being described as in Job and Zechariah, or whether the ‘adversary’ is to be understood here as a general tendency toward evil. In the Hebrew text, there is no definite article with the noun ‘Satan,’ and the word is probably best translated simply as ‘an adversary.’ In either case, the figure in 1 Chronicles is not yet the embodiment of evil. It should be noted that ‘the serpent’ of Genesis 3 is never in the ot identified as Satan.

It is during the late postexilic period (after ca. 200 b.c.) and in the intertestamental literature that one first finds the development of the idea of Satan that is assumed in the nt writings. Probably under the influence of Persian ideology, there developed in Hebrew thought the idea of a dualism rampant in the created order—a dualism of good versus evil. There existed already the idea that God had a heavenly host, a group of messengers to carry out his work and orders. The Persians also believed in a ruler over the powers of evil, who had many servants in this realm known as demons. The Hebrews could easily understand and assimilate such thinking into their already existing ideas, but they had not yet developed any idea of a major being as a leader of the forces of evil. Thus, in the development of the religious thinking of the Jewish people, several different names were used to designate the leader of those forces hostile to God: the devil, Belial (also Beliar), Mastemah, Apollyon (meaning the ‘Destroyer’), Sammael, Asmodeus, or Beelzebub. Satan, however, came to be the most usual designation (in Greek, Satan was translated as ‘the devil’). Another interesting development took place during this period: the figure of the devil or Satan came to be identified with ‘the serpent’ of Genesis 3.

Satan and his cohorts then came to represent the powers of evil in the universe and were even known in Jesus’ time as the Kingdom of Satan, against which Jesus had come to fight and to establish the Kingdom of God (e.g., Mark 3:23-26). The demons were considered to be the cause of sickness, both physical and mental, and of many calamities of nature (e.g., storms, earthquakes); in general, they were the forces responsible for much of human sin (and therefore misery), and they were always opposed to God’s purposes and God’s people.
In the nt writings, Satan appears frequently, especially in the Gospels. The figure is also known by numerous other designations, among which are the devil (e.g., Matt. 4:1), the tempter (e.g., Matt. 4:3), the accuser (e.g., Rev. 12:10), the prince of demons (e.g., Luke 11:15), the ruler of this world (e.g., John 12:31), as well as certain of the proper names listed above. One of the most interesting designations is ‘the evil one.’ In fact, it is quite possible that, in the Lord’s Prayer, the original meaning of the petition, ‘deliver us from evil,’ may have been, ‘deliver us from the evil one’ (Matt. 6:13b).

In both Jewish and Christian apocalyptic writings, it is clearly affirmed that, no matter how powerful Satan may appear to be, his final overthrow by the power of God is certain (e.g., Rev. 20:1-10, where ‘the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan’ is to be ‘thrown into the lake of fire and brimstone…and tormented day and night for ever and ever’).

Much modern thought about the figure of Satan, particularly at the popular level, owes its origin to John Milton’s Paradise Lost (1667), not to the biblical writings (e.g., the application of Isa. 14:12-15 to Satan and his ‘fall’ from heaven). While the figure of Satan is powerful and even heroic in Milton’s work, it should be remembered that Milton’s Satan and the biblical figure are not always the same.


So what have we learned from all this reading? We’ve learned the Satan/the devil/Lucifer /demons/whatever are Judaeo-Christian constructs that either mean:

A) an actual physical Deity who’s prime objective is evil.

Therefore have nothing to do with The Craft as Witches are not evil, to not attempt to harm others and generally want to help mankind be better.

B) the embodiment of evil with no physical form, but the energy constract of all that is evil.

Again, Satan has nothing to do with The Craft, because again Witches do not practice evil rituals, or harm others.

Witches honour nature and the earth as a mirror of the Divine. They see God in each little flower, and are respectful of that.

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posted by: Redman (reply)
post date: 04.17.05 (8:31 pm)

I am very sorry I offended you. Know that I was not accusing you of anything - it was only to say that IF you were involved, that those kinds of things are extremely dangerous, and thus one must be cautious.
"Demonic activity" is a term used to decsribe something that humans generally can't understand. It's a reference to the spiritual realm, the one we can't see, hear, touch, smell - nothing.
The Bible clearly states many times that Satan is indeed real, alive, and active in the Earth. HE IS REAL, never doubt that, for your own sake. I have seen way too much to believe that he isn't.
Likewise, the Divine is real, and It clearly says that: "You have an enemy without a body, and he seeks to steal, kill, and destroy." Jesus himself said it before. Satan is no more than an angel who turned rotten and decided he wanted to serve himself rather than the Divine, and so he was banished. But he also is allowed a small amount of power, and we are affected by it every day. That's why things like theft, murder, adultery, dishonesty, and every other awful thing occurs. Our nature as humans is to do these things, but Satan manipulates that and encourages us to do them. We can resist that, but that's a whole 'nother matter.
The point is, Fairmoon, that I meant no harm by what I told you. I meant only as a fellow human that I believe there is great danger in The Craft, because I know very well of it. I KNOW IT VERY WELL, mind you, I KNOW IT VERY VERY VERY WELL.
I will not ask you to change your ways. It's your life, Your decision - and no one else's, ultimately. But I will say this: please consider my warning. Question what you believe. Question it until you cannot be more sure that it is right and good.
NOTE: I have several close friends who are Wiccans, and they know where I stand regarding those matters, but it doesn't interfere with our relationship. I've told them before that I strongly believe they're meddling with thigns they oughtn't to, but they didn't listen. All I can do is pray that no harm comes to them throguh their involvement.
Please, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't ever talk to any spirit. I beg you, don't do it! They are deceivers, liars! They want us to believe that they're harmless, that they're not out to hurt anybody, but it's NOT TRUE. I'm not saying you do talk to spirits - truth is, I have no idea if you do. I'm just saying, if you ever find yourself in a position where you can, DON'T. It's not worth it. While it may be interesting or it may seem like it'll help in some way or another, still, DON'T TALk TO THEM. I speak from a position of experience and understanding, because I've learned the truth about the only spirits we ever come into contact with: demons, souls of the dead, or angels. Demons are nasty angels; angels we have no business talking with unless God wants us to; the souls of the dead the Bible says we are to leave to their rest. If you don't believe the Bible, well then think of it this way: would you want to be woken up from a deep sleep, and have a living person ask you questions or favors, or anything else liek that? Probably not, especially considering that being woken up spiritually is much different than physically in that it's much more, eh, extreme? Serious? Something to that effect.
Fairmoon, me dear, you have a strong will and a powerful mind. I can tell. Please, continue to use it only to help people, never to destroy. If you believe that The Craft is alright, then continue. No one's going to stop you. :-)
I don't know your name, but I'm going to pray blessings into your life, whether you like it or not. :-)

Sincerely,
Redman



posted by: Fairmoon (reply)
post date: 04.18.05 (11:49 am)

Reply to: Redman
again with the assumtions. you claim to have wiccan friends and that you know it very very very well, yet you ask me to help people and not destroy.

by saying that you clearing do not understand wicca, because you would know that in Wicca spells and blessings, when done, are used only in benevolent manners.

You don't know a thing about my background, my education, my upbringing, culture or family heritage. You have made assumtions and warned me off of somthing that you seem to only have a Christian understanding of. you say you know, but give no background as to where/how you've gained that knowledge. You've spoken nothing of your education that would show me that you do indeed know what you are talking about.

There are many cultures in this world who do not view, Devas/spirits/ancestors/ in evil ways and this is a culture that has passed from generation to generation and creates an integral part of their culture.

Please do not make assumtions about me or my choices in life.

FM




posted by: Redman (reply)
post date: 04.18.05 (4:34 pm)

Sorry to have done so.
Even the kindest of magic can be used for rotten things. Some of my friends have used their Wiccan abilities to...do bad things.
I know because I was a warlock, and a very powerful one at that. I was the most powerful in the entire city where I live, and I knew it.
Therefore my understanding is not limited to only one side, but many. I have seen enough to prove that the spirits around us are indeed real and active.
My education is such that I know a good bit of each craft. I know that Wicca proclaims itself as White magic, and that they use it for good things only. I am fully aware of that. It's just that even godo things can be used for, well, bad.
Yet it is none of my concern what you do with the power allowed you. The choices you make in life will inevidably affect your eternal destiny, as I've learned, so make them carefully.
I hope the best for you, your child, and husband, Fairmoon. Accept my blessing as a fellow human being. :-)
And again, I am very sorry to have seemingly made any assumptions. I wasn't actually assuming - only saying IF such-and-such were the case.
So no worries then. I don't know how you live, and it's none of my business anyway. I'm going to close with this: God bless you and your family.

--- Redman

PS. This means I'm not posting anything on your blogs anymore, just cause i thnk it best i stay out of the way.



posted by: kurtmaddox (reply)
post date: 04.21.05 (3:51 pm)

demonic shemonic... it's all fairytales. paganism is as valid as any other mythology to adopt as a religion. knock yourself out!



posted by: kurtmaddox (reply)
post date: 04.21.05 (3:53 pm)

Reply to: Redman

Another delusional Christian... Have you ever thought it might be YOU who could use a blessing from US?



posted by: kurtmaddox (reply)
post date: 04.21.05 (3:55 pm)

Reply to: Redman

Man, you really are delusional. Why don't you use some of that warlock power to get Tom Delay to resign from Congress? LOL!



posted by: Fairmoon (reply)
post date: 04.25.05 (6:49 am)

Reply to: kurtmaddox
"demonic shemonic... it's all fairytales. paganism is as valid as any other mythology to adopt as a religion. knock yourself out!"

hhhmmm, thanks? I think I understand you're meaning, but I'm not to sure. care to have a chat about 'myth and religion"?



posted by: kurtmaddox (reply)
post date: 04.25.05 (12:27 pm)

Reply to: Fairmoon

i'm always game to chat about "myth and religion". joseph cambell remains perhaps my favorite writer/teacher on the subjects of comparative religion and mythology. i'm currently re-reading his seminal work -- "the hero with a thousand faces". if you haven't read it -- if anyone interested in such things hasn't read it -- then you/they have to drop everything and run out to the library to check it out.



posted by: Fairmoon (reply)
post date: 04.25.05 (1:12 pm)

Reply to: kurtmaddox
say's sheepishly, i haven't read joseph campbell, yet. But I know a lot about his works and have read other things that cite him, so i get the basics. Another interesting read when it comes to comparative religion is The Pagan Christ, by Tom Harpur. It's very interesting. Right now i'm ploughing through the Annotated Oxford Bible and "Never Again, The burning Times", whcih has an unfortunate title, but is a very good book.

"the hero with a thousand faces"? care to summerize? sounds interesting. I'll add it to my reading list. :)



posted by: kurtmaddox (reply)
post date: 04.25.05 (3:27 pm)

Reply to: Fairmoon

the premise of "...hero...", and also a fundamental theme of campbell's work, is that the mythologies of most all cultures have at their nexus a hero (campbell uses "hero" in its generic neuter form) that must complete basically the same cycle in order to slay the dragon/save the village/find his/her destiny etc. the cycle is leaving the home/tribe/community, going on an adventure (up the mountain, into the wilderness, out to sea, into the jungle, into the valley, etc), facing an enemy (demons, dragons, warriors, satan, death, fear, monsters of all kinds, or any type of enemy one cares to invent that is symbolic for the culture producing the hero), the hero defeats the enemy, the hero returns home -- now the "hero", of course. obviously, the number of branches and complexities various hero myths take on is as varied as the imagination can suppose -- the key, however, is that the basic template is so similar even in cultures that could not have had much meaningful comingling in their past or in cultures that, on the surface, appear very different.

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