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posted by: almsthvn (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (3:12 pm) Many blessings to you, too, FM! May 2007 be bright for all of us :) posted by: fairmoon (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (3:18 pm) Reply to: almsthvn Blessings to you too! and your lovely little katiebug! Merry Christmas to you both. Is she excited as my kid is? he's practically bouncing off the walls these days. FM posted by: rosietulips (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (5:00 pm) Happy holidays! posted by: fairmoon (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (6:02 pm) Reply to: rosietulips Happy Holidays to you too!! FM posted by: doeeyed (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (8:12 pm) Happy Holidays to you Fairmoon :) posted by: doeeyed (reply) post date: 12.22.06 (8:12 pm) Happy Holidays to you Fairmoon :) posted by: mitchdolittle (reply) post date: 12.23.06 (8:20 am) When speaking of the divine: immanent yet trancedent, many of our false boundaries fade. I think the birth of Jesus is real, however I think it also points to a fact, Christ has always been with us, and yes so identified that "whatever we do to the least, we do unto Him" points strongly to that. You have a thought provoking blog. Peace Mark posted by: fairmoon (reply) post date: 12.23.06 (9:28 am) Reply to: mitchdolittle Reply to: mitchdolittle I find myself really struggling with the birth of Jesus. I feel very turned around and loopy with my thoughts on this. If you want thought provoking take a read through "Pagan Christ" by tom Harper. I re-read it recently and it's made me rethink how and what I believe. In the book, Tom and other researchers suggest the Jesus, the Christ figure, is based on 1000's of years of Egyptian religion in which Osiris embodies the "Christos" or Cosmic Christ energy. He also presents a lot of research proving the bible is not literal or historical. I believe that there was a guy who embodied the "Christ ideals" and challenged the status quo of the Hebrews and Rome, but I don't believe the bible as literal truth. The man that was Jesus got his story blown out of proportion after his death and became mythical as a result. That's how I see it anyways. For me, seeing the universal truth that is the "Christos" energy makes my faith stronger and as you said Christ HAS ALWAYS been with us, in some form or another. I agree with your comment on false boundaries, very well said. I've been engaged in some really interesting spiritual conversations at a site called wondercafe.ca, you might enjoy it too. FM posted by: musicalhair (reply) post date: 12.23.06 (10:12 am) Excellent post! I look forward to reading more of your posts, once I have some time (like after Christmas). I haven't read that book, but I've read three books by Freke and Gandy which seem to explore similar ideas. I came to those books after many years of reading "other" gospels and theology books and history books, so for me on one hand they (Freke and Gandy's books) gave me a completely new direction to start looking into and learning about, on the other hand and more to the point they integrated "east and west" in a way for me. In one of their books they try to tackle the lack of a female perspective in modern Christianity, saying it was fully their in Gnosticism, which they feel was the earliest form of it (and I am leaning heavily in that direction in agreement). I think I've come to similar conclusions as you over these kinds of "issues". For a really funny take on our Christmas tradition, you should try to checkout the Christmas episode of the cartoon "The Boondocks", which many might find offensive but is also really funny and well made and multi-leveled. In one scene the main character tries telling his grandfather that our Christmas evolved from the roman Saturnalia. Anyway the cartoon is worth seeing for far more than that, provided one isn't too sensative. Anyway, great blog which I hope to read a lot more of. posted by: fairmoon (reply) post date: 12.23.06 (11:54 am) Reply to: musicalhair Thanks, I'll see if i can find that show on the internet somewhere. One of the primary reasons I began seeking out paganism was because of the lack of feminine in Christianity. lately I've been discovering a whole movement to bring that in. Joyce Rupp has a number of books about Sophia- "the wisdom of God", or the Goddess of wisdom, where she explores the fact that in the bible this 'wisdom of god' is feminine. (side note: on the cistine chapel painting of God reaching his hand out to adam, God has his arm around Sophia) And I've also been reading Hildegard of Bingen, who in the 12th century explored the feminine in God, in her own writing and music. My favorite quote by her is "the cosmos resting in the womb of God" I wish i'd found her writtings earlier in my search! Thanks for mentioning some other authors, i'm always on the look out for new writers to read-- when i have the time too. If you read the Pagan Christ, let me know what you think of it. FM posted by: musicalhair (reply) post date: 12.23.06 (2:06 pm) Reply to: fairmoon I didn't know that about the Sistine Chapel! That is really pretty heavy, like "hidden in plain sight". Hidegard of Bingen is an important figure in the development of "western music", and she has some great music. I knew she was a nun, but you've hipped me to yet another reason to learn more about her. I wanted to start teaching my oldest daughter about her and her music, because she is plays piano well and so "Godly" or spiritual so I want to be the very vest dad I can be and lead down both paths as best I can-- or really help her along the paths as she chooses, with me not just "guiding" or indoctrinating all the time. I'll have to check out Joyce Rupp too, there are way more books on these subjects than I can get to. I think it is important stuff though, not just for any spirtual or religious implications, but for the impact on our society these religious ideas have. It would be something else if Christianity started not in a Judeaism context but in a Platonistic or Pythagorean context. posted by: surrogate (reply) post date: 12.26.06 (3:07 pm) Nice post... Didn't know you had a new one up. Are you getting much flack about the amalgam you're trying to juggle? You sure present it well, but man I'd think it would ruffle a lot of feathers on both sides of the nest. posted by: fairmoon (reply) post date: 12.28.06 (10:17 am) Reply to: surrogate Comfirmed: Feather ruffled everywhere! actually i haven't have much contact with pagans with ruffled feathers, the few i've talked too seem to be okay with it, but we all know the feather rufflers are out there. I've had some good chats about this with xtains too, but yes a few are quite ruffled. I've been chatting a bit over at wondercafe.ca and it's there that i've seemed to have ruffled the LEAST amount of feathers. everyone, xtains and/or otherwise have been very open and quite good to chat with. it's pretty cool, gives me hope. FM |
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